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conker AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 394 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 23, 2024 21:30:59 GMT 1 Likes: 154	Question on Tailgate glass Apr 21, 2023 10:24:58 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by conker on Apr 21, 2023 10:24:58 GMT 1 Just had a question on rear glass heavily tinted cannot see anything at the rear with interior mirror tester had just failed this car was this a pass advise or a fail?

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Post by lonewolf on Apr 21, 2023 10:44:10 GMT 1

There may have been some confusion over the requirements with it not being fully read, Manual states: Three mirrors/devices, in position ‘a’, ‘b’ and ‘c’ - unless internal mirror does not give view to rear.

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Post by dizzydiver on Apr 21, 2023 10:55:56 GMT 1

Apr 21, 2023 10:24:58 GMT 1 conker said:

Just had a question on rear glass heavily tinted cannot see anything at the rear with interior mirror
tester had just failed this car was this a pass advise or a fail?

sounds like one of those grey areas.

reading the manual, it does say about rear view using external mirrors in one bit, then interior view in another bit. but you have a good view of the interior of the back of vehicle, and the mirror is present. how old is said vehicle, before or after 2010.

might be p & a.

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Post by conker on Apr 21, 2023 11:13:16 GMT 1

Apr 21, 2023 10:55:56 GMT 1 dizzydiver said:

Apr 21, 2023 10:24:58 GMT 1 conker said:

Just had a question on rear glass heavily tinted cannot see anything at the rear with interior mirror
tester had just failed this car was this a pass advise or a fail?

sounds like one of those grey areas.

reading the manual, it does say about rear view using external mirrors in one bit, then interior view in another bit. but you have a good view of the interior of the back of vehicle, and the mirror is present. how old is said vehicle, before or after 2010.

might be p & a.

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Question on Tailgate glass Apr 21, 2023 16:57:58 GMT 1 wally, conker, and 1 more like this

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Post by Dynamo on Apr 21, 2023 16:57:58 GMT 1

The good book says...

Obligatory mirror or device not providing an adequate view to the rear.

So if then you look into the rear view mirror glass and can see the rear of the car or rear window, but can't see through it, then it must be providing a view to the rear!

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

nitros44 MOT tester Posts: 3,805 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Mar 6, 2013 1:09:15 GMT 1 Likes: 1,970	Question on Tailgate glass Apr 21, 2023 20:24:20 GMT 1 via mobile wally likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by nitros44 on Apr 21, 2023 20:24:20 GMT 1 The issue here is not the mirrors The issue is the rear screen We only test for excess tinting to front and sides I would not even advise it
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Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,305 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,314	Question on Tailgate glass Apr 21, 2023 21:39:38 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Apr 21, 2023 21:39:38 GMT 1 Me neither
	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

conker AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 394 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 23, 2024 21:30:59 GMT 1 Likes: 154	Question on Tailgate glass Apr 21, 2023 22:04:03 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by conker on Apr 21, 2023 22:04:03 GMT 1 Tester rang Dvsa and was told to pass and advise on rear glass and tick dangerous on the advise.

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	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

nitros44 MOT tester Posts: 3,805 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Mar 6, 2013 1:09:15 GMT 1 Likes: 1,970	Question on Tailgate glass Apr 22, 2023 15:52:42 GMT 1 via mobile baz657, wally, and 2 more like this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by nitros44 on Apr 22, 2023 15:52:42 GMT 1 I’ll have to start recording vans with bulkheads are dangerous to drive if that’s the case ,utter nonsense
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Post by stealth on Apr 22, 2023 23:20:48 GMT 1

Apr 22, 2023 15:52:42 GMT 1 nitros44 said:

I’ll have to start recording vans with bulkheads are dangerous to drive if that’s the case ,utter nonsense

Could be fun come MOT on my camper. The rear bulkhead was removed as part of the conversion, it's never had a driver rear view mirror, it's had windows fitted to the rear doors but they are dark as a dark thing & have interior blinds fitted

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