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Post by rocket on Aug 5, 2021 18:34:50 GMT 1

I had an interesting conversation with an old friend known him since 1992 yesterday who runs 3 garages in harrogate Leeds area . this goes back to last November a new tester tech started at his a month or so before then got involved with some Eastern European gangsters at his previous employment and got to greedy and to deep they owned him !!! my mate got a phone call off the VE for that area do you do tests on a Sunday ? This guy had been doing tests on his mobile phone over the weekend and the gangsters were printing tickets via the remote function with the log book my mate got done for a few tests the previous employer lots the TESTER in question got sacked instantly and picked his tools up day after inbetween getting done by dvsa he Then he bought a one way plane ✈ ticket to Pakistan and No one has seen or heard from him since any thoughts ?

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Post by peter on Aug 5, 2021 18:46:31 GMT 1

That's a fairly extreme case but I'm sure we ALL know of a garage in our own areas who passes stuff we've failed drastically a day or two later. I certainly know of one near me!
All the DVSA really need to do is see who tests most of the cars for the local small traders and that would give them some really big clues as to who to target!
But, yes, it goes on. Always has and always will while you and I get ticked off for things like the viewing area being untidy or similar.......

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Aug 5, 2021 18:46:31 GMT 1 peter said:

That's a fairly extreme case but I'm sure we ALL know of a garage in our own areas who passes stuff we've failed drastically a day or two later. I certainly know of one near me!
All the DVSA really need to do is see who tests most of the cars for the local small traders and that would give them some really big clues as to who to target!
But, yes, it goes on. Always has and always will while you and I get ticked off for things like the viewing area being untidy or similar.......

Peter THEY were never on the premises I know one who got a £ 60 thousand pound fine and 6 months prison food and the last refresher course I were on I asked the trainer about this he said I've caught people people out before and starts to tell us about this guy in Burnley

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Post by wally on Aug 5, 2021 19:47:03 GMT 1

Years ago i got a job at a garage that did not number their job cards. That was the first thing that i implemented during the first few days as manager.
The big chief wanted to know who was going to pay the printers invoice after sending the box of job cards back to the printers, after i explained how many job cards went "missing in action" he was quite happy to foot the bill!

If anybody buys 100 test slots it is quite easy to check that you have invoiced out 100 test fees. If it doesn't tally up then start checking to see if you are giving away to much.

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Post by dwain on Aug 5, 2021 23:30:14 GMT 1

There’s that much of it going on DVSA simply cannot keep up. I employed a guy for a week, was friendly with the local VE at the time, they were dying to catch this tester out as he was bent as a hell, hence he only lasted a week. They were gunning for him but simply didn’t have the resources to catch him out.

mercedes VTS Council member Posts: 1,225 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Nov 22, 2024 18:21:09 GMT 1 Likes: 487	Bent tester Aug 6, 2021 9:14:22 GMT 1 peter likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by mercedes on Aug 6, 2021 9:14:22 GMT 1 i do 1 local car sales boy but he puts out good cars i told him from the start no funny buisness our you can ram it and i will get on the phone too all the local stations and tell them your a d* h*

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Post by Hooters on Aug 6, 2021 21:28:14 GMT 1

Do you remember, at about the time we were transiting from hand-written to intranet testing aka MoT Comp?

Well just to refresh your memories, it was about that time we were having regional evening seminars hosted by VOSA.
I remember one of the audience asking “why can’t we go with internet testing?”
The answer was “it’s not secure, it’s open to fraud” AND THEY WERE RIGHT.
And, as a result we, the testing trade, are looking at scrapping thousands, YES THOUSANDS of pounds worth of serviceable kit in the name of ‘connected equipment'.

Bitter? certainly. Twisted? never!

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Post by rocket on Aug 7, 2021 13:34:47 GMT 1

Aug 5, 2021 23:30:14 GMT 1 dwain said:

There’s that much of it going on DVSA simply cannot keep up. I employed a guy for a week, was friendly with the local VE at the time, they were dying to catch this tester out as he was bent as a hell, hence he only lasted a week. They were gunning for him but simply didn’t have the resources to catch him out.

How DO you manage multi sites ? I run the day to day side of things and the garage invoices and MOT administration the boss does the AE side test logs slots etc . How do you keep tabs on tests done . my original post the TESTER in question his previous employer forgot to remove him from the VT 26 do you check test logs and Ip adresses daily for every tester ?

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Aug 7, 2021 13:34:47 GMT 1 rocket said:

Aug 5, 2021 23:30:14 GMT 1 dwain said:

There’s that much of it going on DVSA simply cannot keep up. I employed a guy for a week, was friendly with the local VE at the time, they were dying to catch this tester out as he was bent as a hell, hence he only lasted a week. They were gunning for him but simply didn’t have the resources to catch him out.

How DO you manage multi sites ? I run the day to day side of things and the garage invoices and MOT administration the boss does the AE side test logs slots etc . How do you keep tabs on tests done . my original post the TESTER in question his previous employer forgot to remove him from the VT 26 do you check test logs and Ip adresses daily for every tester ?

We don’t check daily, we check weekly/monthly. We do multiple things which all form part of our audit process. Logs vs sales, IP, test times, check emissions print outs, check what’s logged on when we turn up, gut feelings. All sorts to try to stay on top but it’s not easy. Ultimately, if somebody wants to do us over, they can in the short term, but we’ll find them out and report them.

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Post by dwain on Aug 7, 2021 15:45:58 GMT 1

Aug 7, 2021 15:28:43 GMT 1 rocket said:

Dwain if you had a tester on your books on a multi site basis in your network doing a bent test on every garage in your network because he can as a freelance how long to catch him out

We never have people on more than one site at a time. If they get moved from one centre to cover etc they get removed from the other site as they are added to the new one.

It’d take us anything from a week to a month to catch someone out, depending on what they were doing.

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Post by nitros44 on Aug 9, 2021 23:10:08 GMT 1

Aug 5, 2021 18:34:50 GMT 1 rocket said:

I had an interesting conversation with an old friend known him since 1992 yesterday who runs 3 garages in harrogate Leeds area . this goes back to last November a new tester tech started at his a month or so before then got involved with some Eastern European gangsters at his previous employment and got to greedy and to deep they owned him !!! my mate got a phone call off the VE for that area do you do tests on a Sunday ? This guy had been doing tests on his mobile phone over the weekend and the gangsters were printing tickets via the remote function with the log book my mate got done for a few tests the previous employer lots the TESTER in question got sacked instantly and picked his tools up day after inbetween getting done by dvsa he Then he bought a one way plane ✈ ticket to Pakistan and No one has seen or heard from him since any thoughts ?

So the way this reads both your mate and the new guy are bent if your saying your mate got done for a couple , just dosent add up here .

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Post by nitros44 on Aug 9, 2021 23:10:59 GMT 1

Aug 5, 2021 18:34:50 GMT 1 rocket said:

I had an interesting conversation with an old friend known him since 1992 yesterday who runs 3 garages in harrogate Leeds area . this goes back to last November a new tester tech started at his a month or so before then got involved with some Eastern European gangsters at his previous employment and got to greedy and to deep they owned him !!! my mate got a phone call off the VE for that area do you do tests on a Sunday ? This guy had been doing tests on his mobile phone over the weekend and the gangsters were printing tickets via the remote function with the log book my mate got done for a few tests the previous employer lots the TESTER in question got sacked instantly and picked his tools up day after inbetween getting done by dvsa he Then he bought a one way plane ✈ ticket to Pakistan and No one has seen or heard from him since any thoughts ?

So the way this reads both your mate and the new guy are bent if your saying your mate got done for a couple , just dosent add up here .

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Post by rocket on Aug 11, 2021 17:56:37 GMT 1

Aug 10, 2021 22:01:57 GMT 1 nitros44 said:

Is this on the Sunday then ?

Yes the local VE rang my mate up and asked DO you do tests on a Sunday ? My mate said NO . The VE said one of your testers has been doing them !!! that's how he got caught OUT doing them with a phone or a kindle . I think this tester had been on the VE s radar for sometime

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Post by castrolrob on Aug 12, 2021 8:13:53 GMT 1

we had a guy write one(and nearly get us shut)on comp 1.last thing sat,we dont test sunday,mon the ministrys ringing us."why didnt you notice it on the test log?"er cos we wouldnt have even ordered one till the monday and even then we would have to suspect summat to order it out of spec to begin with then it wouldnt have shown till tues/weds(remember that?)so how the fook could we have known what hed done till a day or two after you bunch were already ringing us?500 points and points DONT make prizes and yup hes still in the game and still writing moodys,nice house,nice car,im starting to think its me thats doing it wrong....

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Post by nitros44 on Aug 12, 2021 22:25:29 GMT 1

Aug 10, 2021 17:56:47 GMT 1 rocket said:

Nitros the TESTER did 3 dodgy tests at his garage without his knowledge is what I meant to say . he didn't say whether the dealership got points for the rogue testers actions though

The DVSA have every test stations operating hours that is used for testing
Anyone using the MTS to log a test on outside these hours will generate an indication/message/email immediately to me informing me that any of our testing stations has accessed the system .
Sometimes we test out of our declared hours as most test stations will do ,if it was a bent test I’d proberly know with in a couple hours ,a week ,a month to Wait and find out regards bent tests /testers dose not work for me ,by then the damage has been done,everything that’s done on the MTS system is there in front of you to prevent malpractice,if one cares that is .

Anyone employing a tester or anyone really it’s imperative that background checks are done ,the AE in this case was just asking for trouble and got out of quite lightly in my opinion

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Post by rocket on Aug 13, 2021 18:31:33 GMT 1

I think they dodged a bullet nitros YOU are correct about the AE or whoever does the admin side though well it's a lesson learned eh !!! A year and a half before I became a tester in 96 I were at a fiat dealer in Blackburn a manager started from Perry's Peugeot that's how I know my mate . he left After 5 months if that .I said to the TESTER have you checked the books yet ? No why was the reply . I will be willing to bet you my right testicle now if there is Not a ticket missing from one of them 😀 and I was right number 100 from a brand new book . You better speak to Bob Stewart now and report it or you might get blamed for it was my reply

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