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otis MOT tester Posts: 152 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 1, 2024 13:12:23 GMT 1 Likes: 111	LEDs and classic cars Mar 18, 2021 18:34:41 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by otis on Mar 18, 2021 18:34:41 GMT 1 My understanding was that classic cars or other vehicles cannot have these retrofitted to existing systems. I have a letter gleened from another forum from the minster counter mending this. The letter appears gen.
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rocket AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 3,429 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 19, 2024 19:40:58 GMT 1 Likes: 1,043	LEDs and classic cars Mar 18, 2021 21:56:08 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by rocket on Mar 18, 2021 21:56:08 GMT 1 What is your dilema ?

robbyboy AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 200 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 19, 2024 16:25:58 GMT 1 Likes: 96	LEDs and classic cars Mar 18, 2021 22:35:14 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by robbyboy on Mar 18, 2021 22:35:14 GMT 1 Yep seen this on Faceache, mentioned something about lighting act 1989 or something or other.

otis MOT tester Posts: 152 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 1, 2024 13:12:23 GMT 1 Likes: 111	LEDs and classic cars Mar 19, 2021 0:02:15 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by otis on Mar 19, 2021 0:02:15 GMT 1 Evidently Dame something or other responded to a question posed by a company selling leds. Evidently it appears the law and the manual are not in sinc. Sadly I have no idea how to post the letter
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Post by robbyboy on Mar 19, 2021 0:27:13 GMT 1

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Thats a link to the letter, hope it works.

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Post by robbyboy on Mar 19, 2021 10:19:52 GMT 1

New special notice out today re this.

Special Notice 01-2021
Headlamp conversions
Published 19 March 2021
This message must be acknowledged by 21 March 2021

1. About headlamp conversions

Section 4.1.4 of the current MOT inspection manuals for both motorcycles and cars and passenger vehicles, states 'Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.'

2. Changes to current rules

From 22 March 2021 we're changing these rules so that not all motorcycles and vehicles will fail the MOT test if their halogen headlamp units have been converted to be used with HID or LED bulbs.

Class 1 and 2 motorcycles

Class 1 and 2 motorcycles must not be failed for the defect 'Light source and lamp not compatible'.

Headlamps must comply with all other requirements of the test and headlamp aim.

The motorcycle inspection manual will be updated shortly, and the ability to select the defect within the MOT testing service will be removed.

Class 3,4,5 and 7 vehicles

For class 3,4,5 and 7 vehicles, the defect 'Light source and lamp not compatible' only applies to vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986.

Should a vehicle be presented for MOT test with conversions before 1 April 1986 they must not be failed with immediate effect.

Vehicles presented with converted halogen headlamp units first used on or after 1 April 1986 will continue to be failed.

Headlamps must comply with all other requirements of the test and headlamp aim.

The cars and passenger vehicles inspection manual will be updated shortly.

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Post by lampy on Mar 19, 2021 10:30:18 GMT 1

Bikes cannot be failed for light source and lamp not compatible from 22nd march what's the betting once they have removed it they don't put in beam image incorrect which has always been missing from the 1&2 regs.
If you ever needed more proof that DVSA have not got a fookin clue about vehicle safety look no further.

I am so glad I am close to retirement because this bunch of t*ssers are beginning to exceed the limits of my medication.

The beatings will continue until moral improves !
The newness has gone off that bit!!!

otis MOT tester Posts: 152 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 1, 2024 13:12:23 GMT 1 Likes: 111	LEDs and classic cars Mar 19, 2021 10:50:32 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by otis on Mar 19, 2021 10:50:32 GMT 1 It's nice to know the let others know before us.
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Post by castrolrob on Mar 19, 2021 12:27:12 GMT 1

yeah,so urgent that the half dozen or so pre 86 that it probably applies to that still actually get tested justify the first sn ive seen in ages with 2 days to read/acknowledge or else YOU MUST STOP TESTING!!!!!!!jesus wept......are there not bigger priorities?

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Post by lampy on Mar 19, 2021 13:26:18 GMT 1

Mar 19, 2021 12:27:12 GMT 1 castrolrob said:

yeah,so urgent that the half dozen or so pre 86 that it probably applies to that still actually get tested justify the first sn ive seen in ages with 2 days to read/acknowledge or else YOU MUST STOP TESTING!!!!!!!jesus wept......are there not bigger priorities?

It's the bike bit that gets me, first bit of common sense DVSA ever applied to the bike test and now they have removed it (22nd onwards) so now we will have all the fcukwits it took years to educate refitting their sh1te HID and LED bulbs and blinding every poor sod coming the other way AGAIN !.

The beatings will continue until moral improves !
The newness has gone off that bit!!!

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