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barry1234 MOT tester Posts: 58 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Jul 6, 2023 13:16:52 GMT 1 Likes: 17	end outline markers May 30, 2018 8:28:53 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by barry1234 on May 30, 2018 8:28:53 GMT 1 Have a modern coachbuilt motorhome in for mot that is 2.3m wide but has no outline markers fitted, am I correct in thinking this is now a fail?

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castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,397 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Nov 18, 2024 14:39:21 GMT 1 Likes: 2,782	end outline markers May 30, 2018 9:08:34 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on May 30, 2018 9:08:34 GMT 1 strangely enuff I posted a query on the blog about these yesterday concerning how many/what width,where to measure etc.will let you know as/when/if I get a reply

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Post by barry1234 on May 30, 2018 9:16:25 GMT 1

manual mentions them in the heading " 4.2 Front and rear position lamps, side marker lamps and end-outline marker lamps
but then nothing about side marker lamps anywhere else I can see. end outline markers are the ones for height? and side obviously along the side of the vehicle?

Does say mandatory so suppose i'l just have to fail it but not liking the prospect of fitting them and then how many do I have to fit? every 1.2m 1.4m.......

Be helpful if the local DVSA man answerers his phone but suppose hes likely to be inundated at the moment

castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,397 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Nov 18, 2024 14:39:21 GMT 1 Likes: 2,782	end outline markers May 30, 2018 9:51:34 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on May 30, 2018 9:51:34 GMT 1 pretty much the queries I raised......

barry1234 MOT tester Posts: 58 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Jul 6, 2023 13:16:52 GMT 1 Likes: 17	end outline markers May 30, 2018 10:30:25 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by barry1234 on May 30, 2018 10:30:25 GMT 1 Dvsa bloke got back to me saying side markers shouldn't be in the heading but outline markers are fail as described in manual and needs one either side at highest point possible front and rear.

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May 30, 2018 8:28:53 GMT 1 barry1234 said:

Have a modern coachbuilt motorhome in for mot that is 2.3m wide but has no outline markers fitted, am I correct in thinking this is now a fail?

vehicle will require:

side outline marker lamps fitted if over 6 metres in length
end outline marker lamps fitted if over 2.1 metres wide
side and end outline marker lamps fitted if over 6 metres in length and over 2.1 metres wide

www.gov.uk/government/publications/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-vans-help-to-get-a-pass/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-vans-help-to-get-a-pass

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May 30, 2018 8:28:53 GMT 1 barry1234 said:

Have a modern coachbuilt motorhome in for mot that is 2.3m wide but has no outline markers fitted, am I correct in thinking this is now a fail?

End-outline marker lamps

Vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1991 that are wider than 2,100mm must have their end-outline marker lamps inspected.

Class 3 vehicles don't need end-outline marker lamps.

There must be:

2 white lamps visible from the front and positioned at windscreen upper edge level or higher

2 red lamps visible from the rear and positioned as high as is practicable

The front and rear end outline marker lamps on each side can be combined in one lamp.

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