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Post by Dynamo on Jul 9, 2016 16:08:47 GMT 1

I re-tested a Peugeot 308 last Tuesday last thing, the customer had taken the car away to be fixed and then returned within the 10 days. I put the car on the ramp and registered it for the retest, having jacked up the front end I found the new offside front lower bearing had been fitted to the suspension, however the repairer had forgotten to refit the bolt correctly that locates through the bottom bush, the one that is normally the bottom ball joint on everyday McPherson strut suspension arrangements. The nut was also missing, the bolt half hanging out was not very safe to drive to say the least, and to top it off I got hold of the brake caliper and the bolts had been left loose that hold the caliper on to the wheel hub.

I pointed these problems out to the presenter and advised him that they were a fail and made the car dangerous to drive, then I asked him if he would like us to repair the faults if we could find a suitable nut to secure the bolt in the lower bush, he agreed and said he would call back in the morning and treat us for going the extra mile to fix his car, the following day or anytime up to now writing this the man has never returned.

I know now that helping people is not right and I should have just failed his car.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by Gaz on Jul 10, 2016 10:07:51 GMT 1

Jul 9, 2016 16:08:47 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

I re-tested a Peugeot 308 last Tuesday last thing, the customer had taken the car away to be fixed and then returned within the 10 days. I put the car on the ramp and registered it for the retest, having jacked up the front end I found the new offside front lower bearing had been fitted to the suspension, however the repairer had forgotten to refit the bolt correctly that locates through the bottom bush, the one that is normally the bottom ball joint on everyday McPherson strut suspension arrangements. The nut was also missing, the bolt half hanging out was not very safe to drive to say the least, and to top it off I got hold of the brake caliper and the bolts had been left loose that hold the caliper on to the wheel hub.

I pointed these problems out to the presenter and advised him that they were a fail and made the car dangerous to drive, then I asked him if he would like us to repair the faults if we could find a suitable nut to secure the bolt in the lower bush, he agreed and said he would call back in the morning and treat us for going the extra mile to fix his car, the following day or anytime up to now writing this the man has never returned.

I know now that helping people is not right and I should have just failed his car.

So you passed his car and let him drive away with dangerous defects on it?

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castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,380 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 14:00:26 GMT 1 Likes: 2,766	Being helpful... Jul 10, 2016 12:44:29 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on Jul 10, 2016 12:44:29 GMT 1 don't think that's what he meant,fixed it and guy fooked off never to return is how I read it.cud be wrong tho

Gaz VTS Council member Posts: 2,157 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Sept 7, 2019 10:16:48 GMT 1 Likes: 738	Being helpful... Jul 10, 2016 14:21:29 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Gaz on Jul 10, 2016 14:21:29 GMT 1 Jul 10, 2016 12:44:29 GMT 1 castrolrob said: don't think that's what he meant,fixed it and guy fooked off never to return is how I read it.cud be wrong tho I've re-read it and I think you could be right
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ivor MOT tester "Failure is always an option." Mythbusters Posts: 1,981 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 8, 2023 11:19:45 GMT 1 Likes: 720	Being helpful... Jul 10, 2016 16:49:26 GMT 1 drew505 likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ivor on Jul 10, 2016 16:49:26 GMT 1 "No good dead should go unpunished", cant remember where that comes from, but i am sure someone will

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Post by Dynamo on Jul 10, 2016 17:25:46 GMT 1

Jul 10, 2016 10:07:51 GMT 1 Gaz said:

Jul 9, 2016 16:08:47 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

I re-tested a Peugeot 308 last Tuesday last thing, the customer had taken the car away to be fixed and then returned within the 10 days. I put the car on the ramp and registered it for the retest, having jacked up the front end I found the new offside front lower bearing had been fitted to the suspension, however the repairer had forgotten to refit the bolt correctly that locates through the bottom bush, the one that is normally the bottom ball joint on everyday McPherson strut suspension arrangements. The nut was also missing, the bolt half hanging out was not very safe to drive to say the least, and to top it off I got hold of the brake caliper and the bolts had been left loose that hold the caliper on to the wheel hub.

I pointed these problems out to the presenter and advised him that they were a fail and made the car dangerous to drive, then I asked him if he would like us to repair the faults if we could find a suitable nut to secure the bolt in the lower bush, he agreed and said he would call back in the morning and treat us for going the extra mile to fix his car, the following day or anytime up to now writing this the man has never returned.

I know now that helping people is not right and I should have just failed his car.

So you passed his car and let him drive away with dangerous defects on it?

Now you know how easy it is to misinterpret information other members write on forums.
The car did not leave the Test Station with dangerous defects present, the car was fixed, we didn't get paid for our efforts to help the customer.

Maybe if DVSA removed the PRS facility when vehicles were registered for a retest it wouldn't solve the above problem,but it might go along way to ensure people understand that once registered at retest if not correct then a definite fail will be issued.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by castrolrob on Jul 11, 2016 10:32:42 GMT 1

Jul 10, 2016 16:49:26 GMT 1 ivor said:

"No good dead should go unpunished", cant remember where that comes from, but i am sure someone will

I got reamed for pretty much the same thing 25yrs back and as a result unless I (or someone else here)know the guys face at least vaguely then I don't even bother,the legal implications are deeper than you think.comes back like that just fail it,why put yourself in a position where at best your earning nothing and at worst your getting sued,makes no sense to me.

flapperjack7 MOT tester Posts: 452 Last Online: Apr 29, 2024 21:50:50 GMT 1 Likes: 222	Being helpful... Jul 11, 2016 11:04:10 GMT 1 via Tapatalk Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by flapperjack7 on Jul 11, 2016 11:04:10 GMT 1 "No good dead " Oscar Wilde. I think I'm right that he said that.

blazebrown MOT tester Posts: 96 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 30, 2024 13:31:49 GMT 1 Likes: 61	Being helpful... Jul 11, 2016 11:23:31 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by blazebrown on Jul 11, 2016 11:23:31 GMT 1 Every time I help someone it nearly always comes back to bite me on the arse. Don't bother next time.

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