Elswick Envoy!!!

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Post by joanna on May 22, 2014 20:51:15 GMT 1

Hi Guy's,

I have in my Garage at the moment an Elswick Envoy, a very unusual vehicle to say the least, the problem I have is the drivers seat for anyone that doesn't know is a wheelchair, I have the vehicle but not the chair. How can I put an MOT on the car without a secure driver's seat being present at the time of the Test. Does anyone know where VOSA stand on this?

I do have to get one of the VOSA guy's down at some point to do my Class 3 test and I will ask when he get's here but just wondered what you guy's would do?

Also does anyone know where I can get a hydroelastic suspension motor for the vehicle too?? (I know I know its a long shot!!!!)

Jo

aylesburyjock Administrator Posts: 2,773 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: May 6, 2024 13:51:59 GMT 1 Likes: 1,867	Elswick Envoy!!! May 22, 2014 21:30:42 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by aylesburyjock on May 22, 2014 21:30:42 GMT 1 I think I would refuse to test as the vehicle is not fit to be driven. It would be dodgy just trying to get it in the MOT bay!

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Post by David on May 22, 2014 22:18:11 GMT 1

Test as presented joanna, Apply the first bit of info provided which says in 6.2 Seats and Doors:

Original Design characteristics and specialised modifications (e.g. to enable wheelchair access) are to be accepted

If it's any of the above you Pass without worry

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joanna MOT tester Posts: 46 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Jun 26, 2017 9:12:42 GMT 1 Likes: 7	Elswick Envoy!!! May 22, 2014 22:50:53 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by joanna on May 22, 2014 22:50:53 GMT 1 Thanks David, I'll have a read tomorrow.

David Administrator Owner\Director, AE\NT\SM, DVSA VTS Council Member, Registered Member & Administrator of The MOT Testers & AE's Forum If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. Albert Einstein Posts: 6,723 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 3, 2024 17:32:27 GMT 1 Likes: 965	Elswick Envoy!!! May 22, 2014 23:09:41 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by David on May 22, 2014 23:09:41 GMT 1 Make sure you give the anchor points for the wheelchair a good checking & advise strongly... or fail if corrosion or damage in the prescribed area (within 30cm of the same) joanna
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joanna MOT tester Posts: 46 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Jun 26, 2017 9:12:42 GMT 1 Likes: 7	Elswick Envoy!!! May 23, 2014 19:32:45 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by joanna on May 23, 2014 19:32:45 GMT 1 Thanks David, there isn't a spot of corrosion anywhere which completely amazed me when i got it on the ramp. Am gobsmacked lol. It did fail though so got to start sourcing parts

David Administrator Owner\Director, AE\NT\SM, DVSA VTS Council Member, Registered Member & Administrator of The MOT Testers & AE's Forum If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. Albert Einstein Posts: 6,723 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 3, 2024 17:32:27 GMT 1 Likes: 965	Elswick Envoy!!! May 23, 2014 22:44:35 GMT 1 joanna likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by David on May 23, 2014 22:44:35 GMT 1 Not many about now-a-days joanna, you should feel quite privileged to be testing one
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rds60h Owner/Driver Ensuring I don't put myself or a Tester at Risk !! Posts: 3 Last Online: Sept 21, 2019 23:52:54 GMT 1 Likes: 1	Elswick Envoy!!! Sept 7, 2014 4:54:12 GMT 1 joanna likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by rds60h on Sept 7, 2014 4:54:12 GMT 1 Pretty sure the running gear was based on the Mini Metro, so may be worth searching Austin/Rover type forums for the hydrolastic pump.

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Post by harry on Sept 7, 2014 9:36:44 GMT 1

Please pardon my ignorance, but the vehicle I don't recognise at all

, but if you are asking about the hydro-elastic suspension pump that inflates the suspension hydraulics, I have one and the fluid to go with it

, if I am sinking from the wrong hymn sheet I appologise in advance

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I do however see a few reasons here why I may refuse to test the vehicle.

1 / Because the vehicle has no drivers seat or disabled seat fitted at the time it is presented for the test, it would be considered as not fit to drive, and

2 / A proper examination "if" a road test for brake purposes were required would be dangerous and illegal because you have nothing secure to sit on and wear the seat belt?

3 / DVSA will not over rule you if you believe that there is an Health and Safety risk by carrying out the test, so a refusal would be in my opinion anyway sensible.

4 / I myself personally am not convinced that the information in the information column in section 6.2 is a licence to go a head and test the vehicle without a drivers seat or disabled wheelchair/seat fitted, DVSA would need to provide a bit more information there I think, if they want it to be tested as presented

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