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barry1992
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MOT fail - lights Nov 22, 2022 19:39:38 GMT 1

Post by barry1992 on Nov 22, 2022 19:39:38 GMT 1

Hi all, i'm sure this gets asked a lot, but how can you be sure if a test station did it's job correctly?

2008 mazda went for it's MOT recently. Now, i know this car has some issues, but the ones that i thought it would definitely fail on are:

1) One brake light out, but the left side and the high level worked.
2) Rear number plate light out on one of the bulbs.
3) Seat belts slow to retract, need some movement.

The problem is, this car has gone through it's last 3 MOT's , and frankly i can't understand how. Last year i took it to the same garage, and i know for a fact that one headlight was pointing at the floor due to the bulb being loose in the unit. It passed. This year it passed with brake lights out.
If they are missing those, how do i know they are doing a thorough test?

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Post by dwain on Nov 22, 2022 21:08:42 GMT 1

Nov 22, 2022 19:39:38 GMT 1 barry1992 said:

If they are missing those, how do i know they are doing a thorough test?

You don’t. And since a successful relationship between a vehicle owner and their mechanic requires a certain level of trust, I’d suggest you find somewhere to get your vehicle mot’d that gives you more confidence.

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MOT fail - lights Nov 22, 2022 21:11:14 GMT 1

Post by Dynamo on Nov 22, 2022 21:11:14 GMT 1

Nov 22, 2022 19:39:38 GMT 1 barry1992 said:

Hi all, i'm sure this gets asked a lot, but how can you be sure if a test station did it's job correctly?

You can't

2008 mazda went for it's MOT recently. Now, i know this car has some issues, but the ones that i thought it would definitely fail on are:

1) One brake light out, but the left side and the high level worked. It depends how many light bulbs are fitted in each lamp cluster. Up to half not working will pass
2) Rear number plate light out on one of the bulbs. That is a minor defect so will pass
3) Seat belts slow to retract, need some movement. We're only checking that all the slack in the belt retracts into the mechanism, it may be slow and might even need a little manual help.

The problem is, this car has gone through it's last 3 MOT's , and frankly i can't understand how. Last year i took it to the same garage, and i know for a fact that one headlight was pointing at the floor due to the bulb being loose in the unit. It passed. This year it passed with brake lights out.
If they are missing those, how do i know they are doing a thorough test? We're all human in the mot trade, mistakes omissions and errors included.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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MOT fail - lights Nov 22, 2022 23:21:24 GMT 1

Post by barry1992 on Nov 22, 2022 23:21:24 GMT 1

Thanks...
The light bulbs are the basic 5/21w in each side. Sidelights work fine, but the brake light on one side has gone. As i say, it does have a high level brake light, so technically 2 out of 3 total clusters work. It wasn't mentioned on the advisory though which i was surprised at.

Like i say, i'm just kinda amazed its gone through. I was expecting a fair few problems, and when it passed coupled with a failed brake light... it just seemed odd. The garage is a reputable one i have used many times, but they are extremely busy so i just wondered if they skimped that's all.
Thanks for the reply.

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Post by aylesburyjock on Nov 23, 2022 7:47:24 GMT 1

It would not have been mentioned in the advisories, as it is a failure. It obviously has been missed. The fact that the high level brake lamp works doesn't matter as it is not a mandatory stop lamp. As Dynamo has already said, we are human, or close, and we can miss stuff.

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