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Post by everson38 on Jul 15, 2022 4:07:24 GMT 1

Hey guys,

So like clock work my younger sister MOT is due and she has to break something on the car. Just wondering if a broken driver side sun visor is a fail, it's.complete.snapped off and not connected to the car anymore?

Thanks alot

mike617 AE/Manager/Owner owner ae tester Posts: 1,007 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 1, 2024 17:58:39 GMT 1 Likes: 500	MOT FAIL? - OS Sun Visor Jul 15, 2022 8:28:30 GMT 1 everson38 likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by mike617 on Jul 15, 2022 8:28:30 GMT 1 Pass & advice for me

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dizzydiver MOT tester Posts: 835 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 2, 2024 0:32:42 GMT 1 Likes: 442	MOT FAIL? - OS Sun Visor Jul 15, 2022 23:55:51 GMT 1 rocket, mike617, and 1 more like this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dizzydiver on Jul 15, 2022 23:55:51 GMT 1 It only becomes a problem if it is there, but does not remain in the stowed position.if it's not there, it won't be a testable item.

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Post by rocket on Jul 16, 2022 17:20:32 GMT 1

Jul 16, 2022 13:54:23 GMT 1 mike617 said:

3.1 field of vision

On my last site visit my VE watched me do a test from start to finish and queried why I flicked It out of my sight of vision whilst driving the car on to the ramp . I said it's part of the test and it affecting my vision

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Post by Dynamo on Jul 16, 2022 19:01:03 GMT 1

It can only fail the test if it is dropped to the point that it is affecting your view of the road ahead. If the hinges were weak and the visor was at your forehead level but not affecting the drivers view of the road, then that really should pass, along with an advisory of course. The skyline (not Nissan) has nothing to do with the test criteria.

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Post by nitros44 on Jul 16, 2022 19:45:28 GMT 1

Jul 16, 2022 15:15:23 GMT 1 rocket said:

Jul 16, 2022 12:39:21 GMT 1 nitros44 said:

Where in the manual does it state a sun visor is testable

3.1 Field of vision Sun Visors on the drivers side must be stowed in the off screen position

Let’s put it another way !!

During an mot test is it a requirement to inspect the the operational function / presence of a sun visor ? Answer no .

The field of vision is tested , and if the sun visor restricts the view it’s the field of vision that has failed is what I’m trying to say .

I would of asked you the same question your VE did regards moving the sun visor ,are we not asked to test the vehicle as presented rocket .

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Post by rocket on Jul 17, 2022 0:00:27 GMT 1

Jul 16, 2022 19:45:28 GMT 1 nitros44 said:

Jul 16, 2022 15:15:23 GMT 1 rocket said:

3.1 Field of vision Sun Visors on the drivers side must be stowed in the off screen position

Let’s put it another way !!

During an mot test is it a requirement to inspect the the operational function / presence of a sun visor ? Answer no .

The field of vision is tested , and if the sun visor restricts the view it’s the field of vision that has failed is what I’m trying to say .

I would of asked you the same question your VE did regards moving the sun visor ,are we not asked to test the vehicle as presented rocket .

THEIR criteria not mine if it's down as presented I check it as per the testers guide / manual and check it can be stowed in the upright position

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Post by castrolrob on Jul 17, 2022 11:29:01 GMT 1

most ones ive had that fit the fail criteria have all been ones that can be moved/swivelled to the drivers side window.object removed from drivers view......only one ive failed was seized solid in the down position and i didnt think i could move it without summat breaking.the owner was also less than 5 ft tall and while its in my view it werent in hers but we aint required to speculate about the effects of these regs on drivers of different heights now are we......fooking utterly peurile regs that by and large just make us poor sods look like a load of jobsworths.

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