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Post by chris on Apr 9, 2017 20:34:22 GMT 1

Just found this

Employers have been told they are legally obliged to protect their staff from diesel fumes - and could be sued if workers develop cancer later in life.

The institute of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH) and Health and Safety Executive (HSE) have issued warnings because diesel fumes have been reclassified as a " grade 1 carcinogen ", meaning they are a definite cause of cancer. Survey found that people exposed to diesel fumes at work were up to 40% more likely to develop lung cancer.

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Post by baz657 on Apr 9, 2017 23:46:44 GMT 1

If true, and it appears to be, DVSA should immediately issue a special notice stopping all MOT diesel emission testing. You couldn't force a tester to light up a cigarette for every diesel that comes in for test so why should they be forced to breath in full throttle diesel smoke?

Which is the government agency with the most clout - DVSA or HSE?

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99hagued MOT tester Posts: 97 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Mar 25, 2024 13:44:35 GMT 1 Likes: 56	Firms could be sued over diesel cancer Apr 10, 2017 0:11:45 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 99hagued on Apr 10, 2017 0:11:45 GMT 1 I must admit I do think about my long term health when doing diesel tests and it fills the workshop full of black smoke

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Post by mike617 on Apr 10, 2017 8:05:53 GMT 1

At least with the black smoke you can cough the particles out it unseen particles that are the problem they are that minute they enter the blood stream,and breathing in synthetic pig p££s is deffinetly not good for us

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Post by flapperjack7 on Apr 10, 2017 8:51:18 GMT 1

It's highly on my mind since my mum died last year from lung cancer. My mum lived very close to the M1 motorway and I believe this was a significant factor. Now work in a test station where the extractor is never turned on because it's routed to the back of the building where a Polish garage set up and they blocked the extractor because the fumes were filling up their workshop.

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Post by blazebrown on Apr 10, 2017 9:20:46 GMT 1

I heard about this a couple of years ago on some emissions related course by exponetia, they said that the particles are so small pm1 and pm2's that we cannot avoid them. I try to limit the running of diesels in the workshop to a minimum, and if they need to be running for more than a a few minutes they go outside.

I'm sure we have all blown our nose at the end of the day and seen the black crap in the tissue? Imagine whats in our lungs.

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Post by neil82 on Apr 10, 2017 10:16:13 GMT 1

noticed years ago when small diesel engines were getting popular in cars that they irritated my chest more than larger truck and plant engines, did discuss it at Daventry on a course one time and it was admitted then that the manufacturers knew about it but as the market was turning to high MPG vehicles they were more concerned about losing market share than the health of tech`s

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Post by karlbenz1 on Apr 10, 2017 18:58:19 GMT 1

Apr 10, 2017 10:24:09 GMT 1 lonewolf said:

This could get messy with a class action suit against DVSA as the professional body set up the method of test including a stipulation on not using extraction equipment.

Where does it say you can't use an extractor ? Does ring a bell ?

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Post by gfautos on Apr 10, 2017 20:39:18 GMT 1

Copied from 7.3 of manual. Exhaust extraction systems that connect directly onto the tailpipe must not be used during the emissions test. Remote systems are acceptable, but they must not be placed closer than 250mm to the tailpipe. Note: The availability of an extraction system is not a requirement of authorisation

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Post by flapperjack7 on Apr 11, 2017 8:15:55 GMT 1

My thinking is coupled with the contact of oil and the fumes we have already breathed in over the year's I wouldn't be surprised if any of us don't die from cancer. Being in this trade is no good for our health.

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Post by motorhead on Apr 15, 2017 20:21:50 GMT 1

Crikey, ive been testing 17 years, 55yrs of age and my garage is close to a scrap merchants, so the road outside is very dusty and vehicles are up and down it through the day blowing up the dust. Think i may have to go get a copd test too and yes i do worry about the emmissions and the dust but im self employed so one has to earn his pennies?

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