criteria for failing a windscreen on a class 4

I tend to ignore what they say on refresher courses and apply the requirements of the manual.

After the S/N was issued the criteria did change a bit lee6975.

We're now instructed that unless the drivers view of the road is seriously affected issue a P&A.Drivers view is now directly ahead only. Again if when you move your head up, down or side to side you can see clearly beyond any damage, it should be a P&A.

If you remove any items issue a PRS mate to keep the fail rates accurate.

that what i told but the manual says diffrent

Whilst sitting in the driver's seat and, referring to the diagram on the previous page, examine the driver's view of the road through the swept area of the windscreen

In Zone ‘A’: a. damage not contained within a 10mm diameter circle, or b. a windscreen sticker or other obstruction encroaching more than 10mm c. a combination of minor damage areas which seriously restricts the driver’s view In the remainder of the swept area: d. damage not contained within a 40mm diameter circle, or e. a windscreen sticker or other obstruction encroaching more than 40mm
 

The special notice did not change any of the failure criteria, or narrow it to immediately in front of the driver. All it did was state you must only use said criteria if it 'materially affects the driver's view'. A very clever way to bring down the failure rate without seeming to be massaging the figures.

Special Notice 2-2014.

Zone A and the remainder of the swept area should still be assessed.

''If the damage only affects the driver's view of the sky or the bonnet then this is not to be considered a reason for rejection. This is a general assessment, you are not required to speculate on the effects on tall or short drivers''

My favourite place to drive includes Hardknott and Wrynose passes . Anyone familiar with either of those will be aware that the 'drivers view of the road' includes the whole of the windscreen and the side windows .

How am I supposed to judge what is the 'drivers view of the road' ? Drivers view of a wall , headlamp aim tester and emessions tester is what I can see through the screen when I am carrying out a test . Should we start doing road tests to check drivers view ? Drivers view of traffic signals when you are first car at the lights is always useful .

Basically if it doesn't affect the view of the road pass and advice,end of

Did you get the email requesting thoughts on the changes under review aylesburyjock?