Subframe repaired by brazing

baz657 Administrator Keeping safe Posts: 4,703 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 29, 2024 22:07:44 GMT 1 Likes: 1,612	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 1:00:34 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by baz657 on Dec 16, 2013 1:00:34 GMT 1 You failed a car on an excessively corroded subframe. On re test you see that the subframe has been repaired by a patch being brazed on. Is this acceptable?
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amco MOT tester mot tester Posts: 57 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Oct 15, 2019 5:26:13 GMT 1 Likes: 6	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 6:34:18 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by amco on Dec 16, 2013 6:34:18 GMT 1 fail had two 51 plate focus cars both corroded sub frames both fail sub frame replaced then passed

webbo VTS Council member Self employed auto electrician & NT / QC Posts: 68 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 22, 2022 13:57:26 GMT 1 Likes: 16	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 10:05:39 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by webbo on Dec 16, 2013 10:05:39 GMT 1 Fail

David Administrator Owner\Director, AE\NT\SM, DVSA VTS Council Member, Registered Member & Administrator of The MOT Testers & AE's Forum If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. Albert Einstein Posts: 6,723 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 3, 2024 17:32:27 GMT 1 Likes: 965	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 11:17:14 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by David on Dec 16, 2013 11:17:14 GMT 1 Fail if to Load bearing item, P&A if none Load bearing....
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aylesburyjock Administrator Posts: 2,773 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: May 4, 2024 8:34:21 GMT 1 Likes: 1,867	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 12:55:34 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by aylesburyjock on Dec 16, 2013 12:55:34 GMT 1 Good point David, but must it not be load bearing to fail in the first place and need repair?

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Post by ivor on Dec 16, 2013 13:25:05 GMT 1

Dec 16, 2013 12:55:34 GMT 1 aylesburyjock said:

Good point David, but must it not be load bearing to fail in the first place and need repair?

Not quite jock, " damaged, corroded or worn to such an extent that its strength is seriously reduced" IM 2.4G

David Administrator Owner\Director, AE\NT\SM, DVSA VTS Council Member, Registered Member & Administrator of The MOT Testers & AE's Forum If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. Albert Einstein Posts: 6,723 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 3, 2024 17:32:27 GMT 1 Likes: 965	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 14:26:06 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by David on Dec 16, 2013 14:26:06 GMT 1 Dec 16, 2013 12:55:34 GMT 1 aylesburyjock said: Good point David, but must it not be load bearing to fail in the first place and need repair? What ivor said aylesburyjock
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Daddyb MOT tester Posts: 55 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Aug 3, 2021 15:18:45 GMT 1 Likes: 8	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 16:30:38 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Daddyb on Dec 16, 2013 16:30:38 GMT 1 Fail Brazing is not a good repair. Seam welding only

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Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 18:23:23 GMT 1 David likes this

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Post by aylesburyjock on Dec 16, 2013 18:23:23 GMT 1

Dec 16, 2013 14:26:06 GMT 1 David said:

Dec 16, 2013 12:55:34 GMT 1 aylesburyjock said:

Good point David, but must it not be load bearing to fail in the first place and need repair?

What ivor said aylesburyjock

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chris AE/Manager/Owner Class 1.2.4 station owner 30+ years Posts: 51 Last Online: May 3, 2024 15:28:22 GMT 1 Likes: 11	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 21:36:54 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by chris on Dec 16, 2013 21:36:54 GMT 1 Fail, brazing looks the part but does not penetrate enough for chassis/subframe repairs. Grey area for me but should bolt on parts be welded anyway ?.

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phaetonott MOT tester Posts: 1,611 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Nov 6, 2020 17:49:52 GMT 1 Likes: 399	Subframe repaired by brazing Dec 16, 2013 22:26:52 GMT 1 nitros44 and chris like this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by phaetonott on Dec 16, 2013 22:26:52 GMT 1 So it fails because it's brazed, then it gets a coat of paint and you have to pass it
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