Alloy wheel repaired by welding

baz657 Administrator Keeping safe Posts: 4,703 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 29, 2024 22:07:44 GMT 1 Likes: 1,612	Alloy wheel repaired by welding Dec 11, 2013 1:11:53 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by baz657 on Dec 11, 2013 1:11:53 GMT 1 You see that an alloy wheel has been repaired by welding. Pass, Pass and Advise or Fail?
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webbo VTS Council member Self employed auto electrician & NT / QC Posts: 68 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 22, 2022 13:57:26 GMT 1 Likes: 16	Alloy wheel repaired by welding Dec 11, 2013 8:34:01 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by webbo on Dec 11, 2013 8:34:01 GMT 1 Pass and advise. I'm sure it used to be a fail for class 7 but can't see it in manual.

webbo VTS Council member Self employed auto electrician & NT / QC Posts: 68 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 22, 2022 13:57:26 GMT 1 Likes: 16	Alloy wheel repaired by welding Dec 11, 2013 8:54:45 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by webbo on Dec 11, 2013 8:54:45 GMT 1 Just found it in the old class 5 manual that alloy wheel welding is considered as an inadequate repair. Nothing in current online manual so pass and advise.

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Post by davidg on Dec 11, 2013 22:27:14 GMT 1

The circumstances would change a little depending upon the class and weight of vehicle the wheel is actually fitted to!

If a fracture occurs over the bridge of a valve on a class 5, 7 or large class 4 vehicle, then consideration would be slightly different as to the outcome of the decision to be reached.

Under normal circumstances a pass and advise what has been seen would be the norm.

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Post by baz657 on Dec 12, 2013 0:59:47 GMT 1

Dec 11, 2013 22:27:14 GMT 1 davidg said:

If a fracture occurs over the bridge of a valve on a class 5, 7 or large class 4 vehicle, then consideration would be slightly different as to the outcome of the decision to be reached.

If it's not in the manual you can't fail it - neither can you make alternative decisions based on different vehicles within the same class.

From a Smart car to a 3.5 Tonne Transit to a 5 Tonne mini bus it's a pass and advise. If the wheel has been repaired and refurbed properly you'd never even see the join.

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Dec 12, 2013 0:59:47 GMT 1 baz657 said:

Dec 11, 2013 22:27:14 GMT 1 davidg said:

If a fracture occurs over the bridge of a valve on a class 5, 7 or large class 4 vehicle, then consideration would be slightly different as to the outcome of the decision to be reached.

If it's not in the manual you can't fail it - neither can you make alternative decisions based on different vehicles within the same class.

From a Smart car to a 3.5 Tonne Transit to a 5 Tonne mini bus it's a pass and advise. If the wheel has been repaired and refurbed properly you'd never even see the join.

....and some are actually welded together during manufacture...

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Post by davidg on Dec 12, 2013 20:16:44 GMT 1

Dec 12, 2013 0:59:47 GMT 1 baz657 said:

Dec 11, 2013 22:27:14 GMT 1 davidg said:

If a fracture occurs over the bridge of a valve on a class 5, 7 or large class 4 vehicle, then consideration would be slightly different as to the outcome of the decision to be reached.

If it's not in the manual you can't fail it - neither can you make alternative decisions based on different vehicles within the same class.

From a Smart car to a 3.5 Tonne Transit to a 5 Tonne mini bus it's a pass and advise. If the wheel has been repaired and refurbed properly you'd never even see the join.

I must admit baz657 your a lot cleverer than me

www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm

Check the section 4.2B.1a (additional checks) in relation to what I said above.

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Post by baz657 on Dec 12, 2013 20:28:02 GMT 1

That I am davidg.

However if the question was...

You see that an alloy wheel has been repaired by welding and you see the weld breaking away....

Your point about the larger 4's, 5's and 7's would be relevant.

But that wasn't the question - so what's your point?

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