class 5

I do a few class 4 over 5000 lg DGW where there is no requirement to jack the rear axle.

We normally do jack up the rear if it's, for example, a Transit but not if it's anything bigger. If we find anything that we wouldn't without jacking (rear wheel bearings, etc) it's an advise.

There is no requirement to jack up the rear because they can be heavier on the rear end than a standard class 7 jacking beam can cope with aylesburyjock.

Another difference that a lot of people don't know is that tyre tread depth pass mark is 1mm and not 1.6mm.

Another case of logic out the window.

i was told that nothing stops you from jacking back up,
but if i found the wheelbearing to be nackered i would consider failing it, but you have got me thinking.

its a fail item which you noticed at time of test, you havent removed covers, you havent used unaproved tools but you have used a approved jacking beam, so why advice it and not fail it

class 5 regardless of weight do not need to be jacked up

This inspection applies to all vehicles EXCEPT Class 5 or Class 4 with a DGW in excess of 5000kg.

Reason for Rejection 1 does not apply to a vehicle where it is not possible to rotate the wheel due to a design characteristic or its drive configuration.

BUT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO JACK UP THEN NOTICE THE WHEELBEARING THEN WHY ADVICE AND NOT FAIL, ( IM ON THE FORUM TO PICK BRAINS AND GAIN MORE KNOWLEDGE)

Yes you are correct regardless of weight no requirement to jack the rear end, so you have just answered your own question, so why insert an inspection of the rear axle, a tester can't make up there own inspection, if you did decide to test the rear wheel bearings and fail it , it then went to appeal, the VE is going to want to know how you came to make that descion,do something that goes againsr the IM,then it may get you on to trouble.

Before an update of the inspection manual a while back class 5 where jacked as part of the inspection,
Trying to fail a class 5 rear wheel bearing is not possible as its not available to select on the vts device I believe.
I don't do class 5 now,but if my memory serves me right, to fail a wheel bearing the rfr on the component page just lets you fail the front.,

This is gonna cause some confusion now. From the latest Matters of Testing "Your questions answered" ...  mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/2013/12/20/your-questions-answered-december-2013/



That's not what the VE's are telling new Class 5L testers when the VE comes round, does the training and signs off a tester. I guess I'll be sending off an email tomorrow asking for further clarification.

The first problem/inconsistency/confusion of the year didn't take long to raise its' head!

If there was a comma after "Class 5" it would mean all class 5 and heavy class 4

Without the comma it means Class 5 under 5000kg and class 4 under 5000kg.

It is quite clear, but how many testers and VEs have a proper "O-level" English Language? I've seen kids leaving school with these GCSEs and they struggle to fill in their benefit claim forms.

It's not a requirement for NTs to be 100% accurate with the art of Written English, so why not write the manual in simple English that could not be misinterpreted?

In this case, to say " Class 5 over 5000kg do not need to be jacked. Class 4 over 5000kg do not need to be jacked" Even my YTS oik could understand that without me needing to explain how to use a comma.