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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 20:00:18 GMT 1

Apr 12, 2013 9:31:23 GMT 1 David said:

HGV's aren't even considered for test until cleaned sufficiently to be examined...

David what has a clean vehicle got to do with the price of beef LOL

An SRS lamp is an SRS lamp, which cannot be compared to a vehicle being clean

, even the car mot scheme can insist that vehicles are clean enough to test them before the test begins, which is completely of course

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Post by David on Apr 13, 2013 2:15:38 GMT 1

haha never even noticed I'd written that in the wrong thread @daveg!!

Gona leave the balls up in place, gives the thread some character....

In answer to your question "David what has a clean vehicle got to do with the price of beef LOL", in truth - no idea at all...

My question to you.....?

Which thread is the bleed'n topic in for my reply?

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phaetonott MOT tester Posts: 1,611 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Nov 6, 2020 17:49:52 GMT 1 Likes: 399	One week in - how's it been for you? Apr 13, 2013 18:09:09 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by phaetonott on Apr 13, 2013 18:09:09 GMT 1 I think it relates to the welded repairs discussion guys. if I'm wrong I'm sure you'll tell me
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Post by ivor on Apr 13, 2013 19:18:34 GMT 1

Apr 11, 2013 23:18:25 GMT 1 David said:

Like I've said previously....it doesn't say anywhere here: 2. A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp: · inoperative · indicating a system malfunction., that the lamp has to be on to show up a malfunction . We test to see if it "Indicates" a malfunction.

Consequently a lamp not coming on when it should can indicate a malfunction too.

Just do as much research as you can to fully understand the systems in use and how the systems indicate faults. There aren't that many different formats and proecdures to be honest. They are all very similar.

If you understand the system in use during test and how it operates you'll know if your being informed of a malfunction via the MIL Lamp and when you can and can't apply the RfR above.

Dave have I understood you correctly that if the SRS light doesn't light up you recon that is indicating a fault buy NOT working ?
I understand where you are coming from, but VOSA have put an advisory & not a fail to cover that.
Have you talked to your local VE & therapist about your attempt to apply logic to the MOT scheme, after a few sessions you will be cured jibber jibber give in

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Post by David on Apr 14, 2013 15:09:34 GMT 1

It does indicate a fault on some systems but not all. You need to the the system and it's particular self test sequence and how it operates.

A flashing lamp indicates a fault too, so there's three different methods of fault indication already ivor. On, Off & Flashing are all indications of faults.

The light will still operate too with ignition, it just doesn't complete it's self test and goes off immediately....

so the P&A advise can;t be used, that's for no lamp on at all

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ivor MOT tester "Failure is always an option." Mythbusters Posts: 1,981 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 8, 2023 11:19:45 GMT 1 Likes: 720	One week in - how's it been for you? Apr 14, 2013 15:46:06 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ivor on Apr 14, 2013 15:46:06 GMT 1 I guess the clever bit is knowing one system from anouter & getting that info to NT's -- a job for the vsi surly ?

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Post by ivor on Apr 21, 2013 21:39:44 GMT 1

Apr 11, 2013 22:02:28 GMT 1 phaetonott said:

I have a gentleman with a Golf who is going to get his mate to take the bulb out.

However I may have bad news for him.

Click the pic for video

I don't like to drag this up BUT I'v been on you tube & the vosa video "mot seminar 2013 - commonly asked questions" ,question 4, says only the light = fail, not the "Air bag fault" display

Sorry I can't create a link but I'm sure someone will be able too.

No need for link just look left DOH!

Last Edit: Apr 21, 2013 21:43:36 GMT 1 by ivor: Forgot to look at the links provided, aghhhh -

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Post by nitros44 on Apr 21, 2013 22:25:04 GMT 1

Well iam pleased you brought it up ivor
If any thing it will clarify the issue to other members that say the display message is a fail.
Should make more of those videos based on questions from testers to the help desk.

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