extreme end

David I am not in disagreement with what you have said above, but it is over and above the mot minimum standard VOSA look for. You never agree with anything I say so just ask VOSA at the Council Meeting and then we can put it to bed once and for all.

Daveg

Coil spring manufactures will say that a coil springs function will be impaired even if it just had a couple mm broken off,it all comes down to sales and performance targets for them and to keep the vehicles in nearly new condition so to speak.
They are not concerned about the minimum standard,but from our perspective its the minimum standard that we all know we have to apply.
They are many functions of a coil spring,and when its only the extreme end that's defective,in most cases its not going to have a major effect on how the coil spring functions.
I don't think that when VOSA ask us to check that the function of the coil spring is impaired is taking about ride heights and spring rates etc.

Remember its a basic test that needs to be kept basic.

I do think that what VOSA mean regarding the springs function is that the coil spring can still compress and de-compress as it would normally do without any interference,say from a bit coil spring that has broken off and lodged between the other coils for example.
A better word other then impaired may of been better to use.

I suppose reference to any other test method other than VOSA's is irrelevant nitros, including Vauxhall's training vids.

My point being one large company looking to save money and another looking to make it doesn't determine whats right for the MOT. Although not correctly located is explained by Kilen quite clearly...far more than VOSA provide.

Be very careful though - I'm sure someone said a spring can boing out and attack you, having your arm or head off off in the process....

I'll abandon that then

Ohh and I forgot to mention, She was in one of my fast fit rivals this morning for four tyres, you can still see the size stamped on the tread of the tyre.

Thought they might have noticed

Kangoo van front spring



The end of the spring is jagged indicating that the extreme end has broken off.

However that piece you can see hanging over the edge of the spring pan is also broken away from the main coil. That piece is about half a coil.

So if the extreme end has already broken off the next break must be a fail!

or does the new broken end become the extreme end?

The other side was just an advise, as only about half a coil was missing.

So I sent it down to the reception and then to the techs for repair.

and the tech came back to me a couple of hours later "Oi Both those front springs are broken"

"yep, thats why I told the receptionist to sell both springs, but I only failed the offside"

"but the spring is broken! That's a fail!"

And he's the guy that tests on my day off!