Position lights (side lights) question

I don't seem to be able to edit my previous post. But I should have added that I would fail for position lamps not coming on with one operation of the switch. I assume that to bring headlights on needs two.

The speedometer only needs to able to be illuminated, no conditions attached.

Interesting.............

If all lights come on with one click of a switch, no rfr so pass. Two clicks for side, then head: Fail.

Exactly, has to be a Pass

It's related to any class 4 nitros44.

peter, thinking off the top of my head I would agree with you but after reading the manual I think we would both be incorrect.

Although the manual states that dim-dip systems must be checked with the ignition off, as others have already pointed out, there isn't actually a RFR if they don't.

The front and rear do not illuminate with a single operation of the switch. I think this means that if you need to turn the front and rears on separately its a fail. As long as they both come on together its a pass.

So in answer to the question I would pass baz657. Advise depending if the side/headlamp switch should allow for independant operation.

Hmm, maybe I was a bit hasty. I have looked at the manual now, as opposed to just replying as I saw it, and I can see your point about the front AND rears turning on with a single operation. That would also explain why there is a dispensation for military vehicles which often (well, ex-Army Landrovers used to anyway) have seperate switches for front and rear lighting.

I don't think I've tested a new style Fiat 500 yet but from whats been posted I take it they don't have the traditional Italian "press a button on the ignition switch and turn the key back one click" means to put sidelights on with ignition off?

David, for example if the switch (like most) was one click round for sidelights, second click round for headlights but only turned on side and headlights on the second click, then I would advise the presenter, as that's clearly not what it was designed to do.

peter, I've tested a few different fiats. From what I remember none of them kept the sidelights on when turning the ignition off. The first was a Michael Schumacher Edition Stilo. I almost failed it. Luckily one of the other testers was walking by as I was trying it out and told me all Fiats do that and not to fail them. I wasn't aware that there was some sort of 'trick' to get them on without the ignition.

Great minds think alike eh baz657? Lol. I probably would of written it down as both front sidelights not working then relised they were after I turned the headlights on.