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Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,321 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,317	Anyone experienced with scopes Aug 25, 2023 8:25:19 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Aug 25, 2023 8:25:19 GMT 1 They don't have a listing for stone age ECUs lol Search Results 0 results found matching 'BV2112A650HC'
	Last Edit: Aug 25, 2023 8:28:03 GMT 1 by Dynamo - You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by dwain on Aug 25, 2023 11:56:34 GMT 1

For those that wish they were more experienced with scopes, I can strongly recommend Darren Quinn of Mechanic Mindset. His YouTube channel, online, and in person training are excellent quality and value.

Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,321 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,317	Anyone experienced with scopes Aug 25, 2023 12:21:17 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Aug 25, 2023 12:21:17 GMT 1 Found another ECU testing and repair centre. Booked it online and packaged up ready to go. The only worry then becomes when they ring up and say, but there is nothing wrong with this ECU!!!! Then I say what now LOL
	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Aug 25, 2023 12:21:17 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Found another ECU testing and repair centre. Booked it online and packaged up ready to go. The only worry then becomes when they ring up and say, but there is nothing wrong with this ECU!!!! Then I say what now LOL

They rang me today

asking me to send down to them the instrument panel and ignition key. I wonder if the fault could be in the instrument panel then? We'll have to see!!

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

nitros44 MOT tester Posts: 3,809 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Mar 6, 2013 1:09:15 GMT 1 Likes: 1,972	Anyone experienced with scopes Aug 29, 2023 13:35:31 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by nitros44 on Aug 29, 2023 13:35:31 GMT 1 Need coding
	I might not be the best,but i was always in the top one

Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,321 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,317	Anyone experienced with scopes Aug 29, 2023 19:26:31 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Aug 29, 2023 19:26:31 GMT 1 Instrument panel and key on the way in the morning. I've had ECUs repaired before and they didn't recode immobiliser? I wonder if the immobiliser is then intermittently tripping?
	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,321 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,317	Anyone experienced with scopes Sept 1, 2023 23:32:34 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Sept 1, 2023 23:32:34 GMT 1 Checked the website today, no progress yet. Hopfully something next week....
	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

Dynamo MOT tester He who is without oil shall throw the first Rod. See the book of Compression's 8.7.1 Posts: 4,321 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 29, 2017 15:36:01 GMT 1 Likes: 1,317	Anyone experienced with scopes Sept 4, 2023 17:38:13 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Dynamo on Sept 4, 2023 17:38:13 GMT 1 Sept 1, 2023 23:32:34 GMT 1 Dynamo said: Checked the website today, no progress yet. Hopfully something next week.... Nothing to report just yet!
	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 5, 2023 12:48:21 GMT 1

Sept 4, 2023 17:38:13 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Sept 1, 2023 23:32:34 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Checked the website today, no progress yet. Hopfully something next week....

Nothing to report just yet!

Updated today, additional equipment I sent received and now allocated an engineer to investigate. Pitty that engineer was not with me when I had the headaches trying to diagnose it! Lets see what comes back?

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 7, 2023 17:50:27 GMT 1

Sept 5, 2023 12:48:21 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Sept 4, 2023 17:38:13 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Nothing to report just yet!

Updated today, additional equipment I sent received and now allocated an engineer to investigate. Pitty that engineer was not with me when I had the headaches trying to diagnose it! Lets see what comes back?

Still in the diagnostics/repair section of the engineering ECUs.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 7, 2023 20:09:50 GMT 1

Anything is possible thesedays. Covid knock on yes is starting again and expect it now every year for the remainder of our lives. Pico came back to me this morning and none of us have a solution to this intermittent misfire although we can all see its the ignition playing up. Hoping the ECU test and repair service come back with something more positive.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 8, 2023 18:16:05 GMT 1

Well its not good news I'm afraid. The ECU people rang me this morning and said they'd tested the ECU and found no fault. I advised there must be something based on the codes the ECU logged, such as PO303, P2303, but they said their tests found nothing. I advised them that the engine seemed to misfire after being stood outside overnight, but if left inside then the engine might not misfire on startup. is it possible for you to test the ECU in cold conditions and they said they had done! They offered to sell me another seconhand ECU for £345 plus vat with a warranty, but then I thought well its the customers money not mine so for now I'll leave that one. At the moment I'm out of ideas but the codes logged are telling me something is not quite right.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

dizzydiver MOT tester Posts: 835 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 6, 2024 22:56:53 GMT 1 Likes: 442	Anyone experienced with scopes Sept 8, 2023 22:52:46 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dizzydiver on Sept 8, 2023 22:52:46 GMT 1 How about a bit of condensation on plastic coil pack or plug leads. Or plugs if water being drawn into the cylinder through cyl head gasket or cracks? Crack in sensors?, thermal expansion or contraction? Trade it in!

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 9, 2023 0:52:19 GMT 1

Sept 8, 2023 22:52:46 GMT 1 dizzydiver said:

How about a bit of condensation on plastic coil pack or plug leads. Or plugs if water being drawn into the cylinder through cyl head gasket or cracks?
Crack in sensors?, thermal expansion or contraction?

Trade it in!

Is it possible?

Would a seeping headgasket record a good 22" vacuum?

Would a crankcase pressure test recording no pressure increase have bad rings or bores?

Would brand new coil pack, plug leads and plugs give the same fault as the originals?

Would any crank in any sensor have an effect on its operation, and if so would that be possible intermittently, which means some days everyting is okay, but then without warning a misfire occcurs for a few seconds and then clears thus is then okay again.

Would any mechanical fault cause the ECU to record a fault code for primary ignition circuits failure?

Stop being a defeatest and lets get to the bottom of the root cause of it!

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

mike617 AE/Manager/Owner owner ae tester Posts: 1,007 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 6, 2024 13:38:11 GMT 1 Likes: 500	Anyone experienced with scopes Sept 9, 2023 10:43:32 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by mike617 on Sept 9, 2023 10:43:32 GMT 1 If it was me i would risk fitting a new ecu we have had them tested and no faults found and ended up with the same intermitten problem until the ecu was changed

rocket AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 3,442 Class tested: 4 Last Online: May 6, 2024 9:12:21 GMT 1 Likes: 1,046	Anyone experienced with scopes Sept 9, 2023 10:58:18 GMT 1 mike617 likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by rocket on Sept 9, 2023 10:58:18 GMT 1 Dynamo you do have a tricky problem on your hands how much do you have on this vehicle in man hours ? And is the customer willing to pay for it

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Post by Dynamo on Sept 9, 2023 13:17:32 GMT 1

Sept 9, 2023 10:43:32 GMT 1 mike617 said:

If it was me i would risk fitting a new ecu we have had them tested and no faults found and ended up with the same intermitten problem until the ecu was changed

I wasn't able to speak with the customer at the time, now although she would go with my recommendations, I just don't want to end up being wrong, if you see what I mean.

Sept 9, 2023 10:58:18 GMT 1 rocket said:

Dynamo you do have a tricky problem on your hands how much do you have on this vehicle in man hours ? And is the customer willing to pay for it

She will pay me that not a problem, I'd just like to try and get it right and safe for her at minimum costs if possible. Sometimes jobs drag out and seem a long time to resolve, but I've spent more time typing up on here than man hours on the job. It does not take that long to put a scope on and leave it.

You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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Post by dizzydiver on Sept 9, 2023 18:57:29 GMT 1

Sept 9, 2023 0:52:19 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Sept 8, 2023 22:52:46 GMT 1 dizzydiver said:

How about a bit of condensation on plastic coil pack or plug leads. Or plugs if water being drawn into the cylinder through cyl head gasket or cracks?
Crack in sensors?, thermal expansion or contraction?

Trade it in!

Is it possible?

Would a seeping headgasket record a good 22" vacuum?

Would a crankcase pressure test recording no pressure increase have bad rings or bores?

Would brand new coil pack, plug leads and plugs give the same fault as the originals?

Would any crank in any sensor have an effect on its operation, and if so would that be possible intermittently, which means some days everyting is okay, but then without warning a misfire occcurs for a few seconds and then clears thus is then okay again.

Would any mechanical fault cause the ECU to record a fault code for primary ignition circuits failure?

Stop being a defeatest and lets get to the bottom of the root cause of it!

Could even be a wire chafing?
It's been so long, I've forgotten what vehicle it is.
How many hours have you spent on it up to now? And how much on parts?

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