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bikenut MOT tester Posts: 107 Class tested: 1, 2, 4, 7 Last Online: Feb 6, 2019 22:57:52 GMT 1 Likes: 53	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 11, 2018 16:46:16 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bikenut on Jul 11, 2018 16:46:16 GMT 1 Book says they have to work with the engine OR ignition switched on and off. Confused dot com.
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aylesburyjock Administrator Posts: 2,762 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 23, 2024 20:13:10 GMT 1 Likes: 1,862	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 11, 2018 17:27:15 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by aylesburyjock on Jul 11, 2018 17:27:15 GMT 1 I think this one is just a regular error with their words which they do seem to have problems with. There's no need to mention the engine at all, is there? Keep it like it used to be working with ignition on and off.

baz657 Administrator Keeping safe Posts: 4,703 Class tested: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5L, 7 Member is Online Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 12:46:12 GMT 1 Likes: 1,612	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 11, 2018 17:28:47 GMT 1 David likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by baz657 on Jul 11, 2018 17:28:47 GMT 1 Basically they've got to work all the time - ingition on or off, engine running or not.
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wally AE/Manager/Owner Posts: 862 Last Online: Apr 23, 2024 21:24:56 GMT 1 Likes: 704	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 11, 2018 18:33:48 GMT 1 via mobile David likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by wally on Jul 11, 2018 18:33:48 GMT 1 Modern keyless entry and push button start, how many car owners (or even some nt's) would know how to turn the ignition on without starting the engine? Could this be why it is worded as it is? Wally

baldrick VTS Council member Posts: 670 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Feb 13, 2024 11:22:14 GMT 1 Likes: 395	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 11, 2018 23:32:40 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by baldrick on Jul 11, 2018 23:32:40 GMT 1 What if it hasn't got an engine ?

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Post by castrolrob on Jul 12, 2018 13:25:34 GMT 1

heres another odd lighting one for you,failed a tranny,amongst the items were 1 no plate light inop,1 showing white to rear(lamp deflector missing)so individually minors but plate isn't being illuminated so major for multiple sources not illuminating plate,all on the failjesus wept....mk60umr

2wheeler MOT tester Any more offers? Posts: 14 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 9:31:51 GMT 1 Likes: 3	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 12, 2018 14:13:11 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 2wheeler on Jul 12, 2018 14:13:11 GMT 1 Had a Transit and hazards would only work with ign on. Only failure I could find was a minor for switch not operating as intended? Anybody know better please let me know!

baldrick VTS Council member Posts: 670 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Feb 13, 2024 11:22:14 GMT 1 Likes: 395	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by baldrick on Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 Can anyone give a clear and simple explanation on class seven / big campervan side marker lamps/reflectors and how and where to fail them if neccessary ?

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Post by baldrick on Jul 12, 2018 23:44:15 GMT 1

Tested a Vivaro today . Press hazard switch and it pops up . nothing happens with the lights . Pressed it a few times ... Nothing .. I must have left it in the on position because hazards started flashing as i bumped though the rollers at end of the test .. It works as intended ? It does actually turn on and off .

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Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 baldrick said:

Can anyone give a clear and simple explanation on class seven / big campervan side marker lamps/reflectors and how and where to fail them if neccessary ?

They are not testable (at present).

Hope thats clear and simple enough 😁😁

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Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 baldrick said:

Can anyone give a clear and simple explanation on class seven / big campervan side marker lamps/reflectors and how and where to fail them if neccessary ?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-vans-help-to-get-a-pass/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-vans-help-to-get-a-pass#sidelamps

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Jul 12, 2018 23:44:15 GMT 1 baldrick said:

Tested a Vivaro today . Press hazard switch and it pops up . nothing happens with the lights . Pressed it a few times ... Nothing .. I must have left it in the on position because hazards started flashing as i bumped though the rollers at end of the test .. It works as intended ? It does actually turn on and off .

Renault/Vauxhall hazard light switches are the most common in my experience for becoming faulty , they should work on demand in all cases without delayed reaction that you witnessed.
If the switch works as intended before completion of the test pass and advise otherwise faulty switch is your defect in this case.

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Post by David on Jul 13, 2018 11:56:34 GMT 1

Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 baldrick said:

Can anyone give a clear and simple explanation on class seven / big campervan side marker lamps/reflectors and how and where to fail them if neccessary ?

End-outline marker lamps

You must inspect end-outline marker lamps on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1991 that are wider than 2,100mm.

Class 3 vehicles don't need end-outline marker lamps.

The front and rear end outline marker lamps on each side can be combined in one lamp.

Defect
A lamp missing or inoperative. - Major
Defective lens. - Major

Lamp:
not securely attached - Minor
likely to become detached - Major

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Post by bikenut on Jul 13, 2018 13:11:14 GMT 1

Jul 13, 2018 11:56:34 GMT 1 David said:

Jul 12, 2018 23:33:24 GMT 1 baldrick said:

Can anyone give a clear and simple explanation on class seven / big campervan side marker lamps/reflectors and how and where to fail them if neccessary ?

End-outline marker lamps

You must inspect end-outline marker lamps on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1991 that are wider than 2,100mm.

Class 3 vehicles don't need end-outline marker lamps.

The front and rear end outline marker lamps on each side can be combined in one lamp.

Defect
A lamp missing or inoperative. - Major
Defective lens. - Major

Lamp:
not securely attached - Minor
likely to become detached - Major

Im sure the question said "side marker lamps/reflectors" ?

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castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,380 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 23, 2024 22:30:27 GMT 1 Likes: 2,765	Hazard Warning Lamps Jul 14, 2018 11:22:21 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on Jul 14, 2018 11:22:21 GMT 1 and when I queried this on the mot blog I was told we had to measure em,when I further queried where we were measuring the width(load body/mirrors/cab etc)I didn't get an answer.....

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