Annual Assessment Bewilderment

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Annual Assessment Bewilderment Sept 8, 2017 12:17:00 GMT 1 ht and gazzer like this

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Post by nt on Sept 8, 2017 12:17:00 GMT 1

Just done my annual assessment test.

I have scored 86.7%, and I am not happy.

What is puzzling me is that I do not know which questions I have answered correct and which ones I have answered incorrectly.
This means that I am applying incorrect testing standards in my daily MOT tests.

I believe that every tester should (ideally) have 100% score in these tests, in order that we are all testing correctly to maintain safe vehicles on our roads.

The system isn't very helpful in letting me know what answers I have got wrong and what answers I have got right.
It's not only this year, I don't know what I had right & wrong last year, either.

If I know which ones are wrong then I can work on changing my knowledge to better my testing standards, but as it is, I might end up changing my correct knowledge to apply wrong standards in the future.

Anyone else agree (or even understand what I'm getting at)?

lampy AE/Manager/Owner NT/AED Posts: 1,415 Class tested: 1, 2, 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 11:35:23 GMT 1 Likes: 1,143	Annual Assessment Bewilderment Sept 8, 2017 12:45:07 GMT 1 petegroover likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lampy on Sept 8, 2017 12:45:07 GMT 1 The whole setup is ill conceived and badly executed but someone is making money so who cares about testing standards ? They certainly don't unless they can use it to shaft you.
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Post by lonewolf on Sept 8, 2017 13:30:15 GMT 1

This has come up several times and the official response is they don't want to show what was right or wrong as over the year a list of all the correct answers could be compiled so that anyone could get a 100% pass mark without any knowledge. I completely agree and understand that if this is supposed to be Continued Professional Development there is no way to improve if you don't know where shortcomings are. Haven't done this years assessment yet but have previously had issues where questions regarding best practice are concerned. The one that sticks in my head is a vehicle is presented for test with an obviously underinflated tyre. What is your best practice decision?
The 'correct' answer is refuse to test but my decision is put some air in it and crack on with the test.

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Post by Paul on Sept 8, 2017 17:49:33 GMT 1

Sept 8, 2017 12:17:00 GMT 1 nt said:

Just done my annual assessment test.

I have scored 86.7%, and I am not happy.

What is puzzling me is that I do not know which questions I have answered correct and which ones I have answered incorrectly.
This means that I am applying incorrect testing standards in my daily MOT tests.

I believe that every tester should (ideally) have 100% score in these tests, in order that we are all testing correctly to maintain safe vehicles on our roads.

The system isn't very helpful in letting me know what answers I have got wrong and what answers I have got right.
It's not only this year, I don't know what I had right & wrong last year, either.

If I know which ones are wrong then I can work on changing my knowledge to better my testing standards, but as it is, I might end up changing my correct knowledge to apply wrong standards in the future.

Anyone else agree (or even understand what I'm getting at)?

Got an email from ABC Awards last year showing;

Category

IM (3,4,5,7) Bonnet 8.4

IM (3,4,5,7) ViewRear 8.1 gpA

IM (3,4,5,7) ViewRear 8.1 gpB

IM (3,4,5,7) ViewRear 8.1 gpC

IM (3,4,5,7) WipeWash 8.2

IM (3,4,5,7) Gen Stands Procs

With a pass percentage for each category...dont answer your question, but you get a bit more info with abc

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Post by ht on Sept 9, 2017 8:23:03 GMT 1

Sept 8, 2017 12:17:00 GMT 1 nt said:

Just done my annual assessment test.

I have scored 86.7%, and I am not happy.

What is puzzling me is that I do not know which questions I have answered correct and which ones I have answered incorrectly.
This means that I am applying incorrect testing standards in my daily MOT tests.

I believe that every tester should (ideally) have 100% score in these tests, in order that we are all testing correctly to maintain safe vehicles on our roads.

The system isn't very helpful in letting me know what answers I have got wrong and what answers I have got right.
It's not only this year, I don't know what I had right & wrong last year, either.

If I know which ones are wrong then I can work on changing my knowledge to better my testing standards, but as it is, I might end up changing my correct knowledge to apply wrong standards in the future.

Anyone else agree (or even understand what I'm getting at)?

I agree 100% , feedback on where you have made a mistake would be most beneficial and would increase your personal development.
if the wrongly answered questions were highlighted to each individual candidate perhaps at the end of the year for that particular module it would be a step towards real improvement .

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mike617 AE/Manager/Owner owner ae tester Posts: 1,006 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 17:03:09 GMT 1 Likes: 498	Annual Assessment Bewilderment Sept 9, 2017 8:51:09 GMT 1 stealth likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by mike617 on Sept 9, 2017 8:51:09 GMT 1 That would mean more work for them and less money also we could find fault with their interpretaion of the correct answer to the question

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Post by castrolrob on Sept 9, 2017 10:52:03 GMT 1

this has been brought up again and again both here and on the mot blog by many including myself,i would go a lot further,a non invigilated exam where you can look up the answers anyway does little or nothing to drive up standards.it should be a test of what you know not what you can look up,hoe else are you gonna determine the baseline mot knowledge of the guys concerned or indeed improve that knowledge.

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Post by nitros44 on Sept 12, 2017 21:15:18 GMT 1

I used the IMI for the training and assessment .

Part of the module on corrosion (brake pipes included)
Didn't come across any issues,but this is interesting below.

Touched on the subject of grease ,paint and under seal on brake pipes and repairs,the instructions are not to remove in any circumstances.

I might not be the best,but i was always in the top one

otis MOT tester Posts: 152 Class tested: 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 1, 2024 13:12:23 GMT 1 Likes: 111	Annual Assessment Bewilderment Sept 17, 2017 22:41:47 GMT 1 via mobile Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by otis on Sept 17, 2017 22:41:47 GMT 1 I would not bother mate a pass is a pass. I did mine in 11 minutes and got 86% or so. I have made my feelings on this subject known on this forum.
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Post by Paul on Sept 8, 2017 17:49:33 GMT 1

Post by ht on Sept 9, 2017 8:23:03 GMT 1

Post by mike617 on Sept 9, 2017 8:51:09 GMT 1

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