MOT special notice 02-17

pete Administrator VTS Council member Freelance Tester Business owner Posts: 2,235 Class tested: 3, 4, 5L, 7 Last Online: Apr 25, 2024 3:14:18 GMT 1 Likes: 668	MOT special notice 02-17 May 11, 2017 10:09:46 GMT 1 blazebrown likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by pete on May 11, 2017 10:09:46 GMT 1 MOT special notice 02-17: inspection manual changes and dual-purpose vehicles www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-special-notice-02-17-inspection-manual-changes-and-dual-purpose-vehicles

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MOT special notice 02-17 May 11, 2017 10:33:57 GMT 1

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Post by cliff on May 11, 2017 10:33:57 GMT 1

when a vehicle that could meet the definition of dual-purpose arrives to be tested, but you don’t know the LADEN weight, class it as a dual-purpose vehicle and test it as class 4 if the displayed design gross weight is less than 3,500kg

If you don't know the LADEN weight use the dgw plate, if less than 3500kg, test as class 4

surely the dgw IS the max laden weight

castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,380 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 14:00:26 GMT 1 Likes: 2,765	MOT special notice 02-17 May 11, 2017 17:00:08 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on May 11, 2017 17:00:08 GMT 1 my sn says unladen....at least they've given us a max gvw of 3500 kg,got a couple of dodge rams and similar that come in that are gonna get seriously pi$$ed off.

peter Retired Posts: 1,685 Class tested: 4 Last Online: Apr 17, 2024 12:47:06 GMT 1 Likes: 1,144	MOT special notice 02-17 May 16, 2017 19:15:19 GMT 1 Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by peter on May 16, 2017 19:15:19 GMT 1 Maybe my memory is letting me down (that can happen!) but in the appendix about repair methods what has actually changed? It looks to me to be the same rules we've always had.

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castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,380 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 14:00:26 GMT 1 Likes: 2,765	MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 9:07:55 GMT 1 peter likes this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on May 17, 2017 9:07:55 GMT 1 yeah,it aint changed,youve always had to remove the original metal to be able to use spot welds and lets be honest on a patch repair(let alone any others) that rarely if ever happens

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	You can't "unbreak" the broken,you can only break the unbroken to break the break of the unbroken, for me, you cannot unbreak me, for I am already broken,so you have no need to break the break because I am not unbroken.

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MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 9:57:09 GMT 1 Dynamo likes this

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Post by pete on May 17, 2017 9:57:09 GMT 1

From Auto Express. Some examples of crossovers.

Audi A6 Allroad

Audi Q3

Audi Q5

Audi Q5 2008-2016

BMW X1 2009-2015

Chevrolet Captiva 2007-2015

Chevrolet Trax 2013-2015

Citroen C-Crosser 2007-2012

Dacia Duster

Dacia Sandero Stepway

DS 4 Crossback

Fiat 500X

Ford EcoSport

Honda HR-V

Hyundai ix20

Hyundai ix35 2010-2015

Hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell

Hyundai Tucson

Infiniti EX 2009-2015

Infiniti QX30

Jeep Compass 2011-2015

Jeep Renegade

Kia Niro

Kia Sportage

Kia Sportage 2010-2016

Lexus NX

Mazda CX-3

Mercedes-Benz GLA

Mercedes-Benz GLC

MG GS

Mitsubishi ASX

Mitsubishi Outlander 2007-2012

Mitsubishi Outlander 2012-2015

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2012-2015

Nissan Juke

Nissan Qashqai

Nissan Qashqai 2007-2014

Nissan Qashqai+2 2008-2013

Peugeot 2008

Peugeot 3008

Peugeot 3008 2009-2016

Renault Captur

Renault Kadjar

Saab 9-4X Aero

Seat Ateca

Skoda Yeti

Ssangyong Korando

Ssangyong Tivoli

Ssangyong Tivoli XLV

Subaru Outback 2009-2014

Suzuki SX4 2006-2014

Suzuki SX4 S-Cross

Suzuki Vitara

Toyota C-HR

Toyota RAV4

Vauxhall HydroGen 4

Vauxhall Mokka 2012-2016

Vauxhall Mokka X

Volkswagen Taigun concept

Volkswagen Tiguan 2008-2016

Volvo XC70 2007-2016

Zotye 5008

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castrolrob MOT tester Posts: 4,380 Class tested: 4, 7 Last Online: Apr 24, 2024 14:00:26 GMT 1 Likes: 2,765	MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 10:09:48 GMT 1 peter and karlbenz1 like this Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by castrolrob on May 17, 2017 10:09:48 GMT 1 essentially some folks have been testing passenger cars as class 7 despite them not being goods vehicles cos they were big and heavy.muppets.....

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MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 15:51:42 GMT 1

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Post by peter on May 17, 2017 15:51:42 GMT 1

May 17, 2017 9:47:52 GMT 1 Dynamo said:

Just for clarification for me at least, I take it that a 'Crossover' is a type of vehicle like the Navara's etc

No, a Navara is a pickup which sneaks into class IV by virtue of having four wheel drive.
A crossover is something which wants to be a Land Cruiser when it grows up.

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MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 16:30:28 GMT 1 David, aylesburyjock, and 1 more like this

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Post by castrolrob on May 17, 2017 16:30:28 GMT 1

what we used to refer to as softroaders or Chelsea tractors.some of them puddles on the way to your local primary in hampstead can be absolutely treacherous....4x4 is an absolute must under those sorta treacherous conditions,how else are you gonna block the zig zag lines outside the said school/intimidate other road users into mounting the kerb to avoid you as you barrel thru a gap that's too small at 50mph WITHOUT summat that's 20ft long 10ft wide and 3tonnes?how are you supposed to navigate those sorta conditions without sitting 6 foot in the air cos you cant drive worth a sh1t?class 7?special needs class is more like it....

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MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 19:15:58 GMT 1

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Post by peter on May 17, 2017 19:15:58 GMT 1

Totally agree Rob. I live in rural Devon and had a very good friend who lived in Richmond.
So why did I see WAY more big 4wd's in Richmond than I do at home? I always said if I lived somewhere like Richmond I'd have a Fiat Panda, not a Range Rover!

karlbenz1 MOT tester Posts: 269 Last Online: Nov 19, 2020 21:51:01 GMT 1 Likes: 129	MOT special notice 02-17 May 17, 2017 22:36:17 GMT 1 via Tapatalk Back to Top Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by karlbenz1 on May 17, 2017 22:36:17 GMT 1 Where about in Devon Peter, I'm from Exeter now living in Plymouth

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Post by peter on May 18, 2017 15:48:00 GMT 1

May 17, 2017 22:36:17 GMT 1 karlbenz1 said:

Where about in Devon Peter, I'm from Exeter now living in Plymouth

About 8 miles North East of Crediton. I know Exeter well and Plymouth fairly well but, to be honest, I don't get out much!

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Post by castrolrob on Jun 8, 2017 17:49:50 GMT 1

as an addendum we had dvsa in Monday signing one of our guys off,they informed me that dodge rams(you know,the ones that are plated for 4-5 ton!)are dual purpose unless your gear aint big enuff or its too heavy in which case refuse to test.didnt see fit to enlighten me as to the reason why despite repeated requests for same.....no chance on gods green earth are those fooking things under 2040kg,the frigging powertrain weighs more than that!

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